Michael Lofton interviewed Robert Siscoe over the Catholic position of Sedevacantism. It was a live performance on Lofton’s Reason and Theology Youtube channel.
The entire program was full of nonsense as to be expected from two apologists of a religion that blesses Sodomite couples, condemns the death penalty as “an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person”, declares non-Catholics as members of Christ’s Body in the external forum, where women serve the sanctuary and read as lectors, and their popes worship in non-Catholic worship services, praise and venerate arch-heretics such as Martin Luther and celebrate the Protestant revolt, kiss Korans, and hold hands and embrace Sodomites as Sodomites. Yes, that religion they defend as the Catholic Church.
Siscoe began with a chart explaining what the Church is but failed to mention that the gates of hell are heretics and their heresies, which will not overcome the Church. This is a huge omission because heresy cannot be taught by the Catholic Church.
Robert Siscoe is on record for publishing an article that Pope Celestine III actually taught heresy by law and promulgated that heresy as part of the teaching Church. This is precisely what can’t happen lest the gates of hell prevailed.
Three of my friends and I were censored and deleted from the chat box over making this point. My friends and I asked the simple question whether Michael Lofton agreed with Robert Siscoe that Pope Celestine III taught heresy or if a pope could teach heresy by law. It’s a simple question, but Lofton ignored it and then deleted our questions from the comments.
Robert Siscoe was asked if he agreed with Michael Lofton whether the document Fiducia Supplicans was a beautiful document. After all, blessing Sodomite couples is a moral issue. Do they agree over a matter of faith and morals or are they not one in faith? Again, the comment was deleted.
Lofton and Siscoe don’t deal with the tough questions that expose their position. They censor the questions. Think about that! All opposition is censored, and the audience only sees their echo chamber.
Siscoe then continues by making false distinctions. He refers to old heretical sects as being sedevacantists for rejecting the pope, but the reality is the old sects rejected the papacy, not merely one claiming to be pope.
Sedevacantists are not rejecting the papacy, but only the person claiming to be pope. In reality, Siscoe rejects the papacy as taught by Vatican I. He claims the papacy can and HAS promulgated heresy.
Siscoe implies that sedevacantists redefine what the Church is. However, Vatican 2 declared that the Church of Christ subsists in the Catholic Church and that non-Catholics are members of Christ’s Body with the right to be called Christian. That’s a redefinition of the Church.
Siscoe said sedevacantists believe that to be a member of the Church, all that is needed is to be baptized and profess the faith REGARDLESS OF THE SECT YOU BELONG TO. He said we believe the Church subsists in different sects and that we hold exactly what Calvinists held about the Church. What he just described is what the Vatican 2 religion teaches, not sedevacantists.
However, Siscoe does believe that to be a member of the Church, one only has to claim to be Catholic and be in union with Francis regardless of the dogmas that must be professed. As long as you have not left the Vatican 2 religion or been excommunicated, you are member of the Church regardless as to what you actually believe. Professing heretics are still members of the Church as he has told me that Biden and Pelosi are members of the Church.
So far I’ve covered the first 5 minutes of a video that lasted over an hour and half long.
Siscoe continued with complete misrepresentations of heresy, St. Robert Bellarmine, Nestorius, etc., which all has been dealt ad nauseam in the past. This lying of theirs has been going on for years. This is serious business and their souls are in serious jeopardy for lying about the faith, yet they never stop. How many people do they lead astray? What they are doing is pure evil!
Instead of going over each point, I’ll simply point to articles that already deal with everything Siscoe stated in the video.
In my opinion, Mr. Siscoe attempted to refute sedism from the un-sound R&R position, and finally realized that the seds were right on the issue of ecclesiology. This left him only two options: 1. Become a sede himself (and admit that he was wrong) or 2. Return to the Conciliar Church and attempt to square, this heretical sect and Catholicism. An impossible task. Therefore he is in another intellectually unsound and hopeless position.
Two pathetic individuals lost in their space of nothingness. Just what they think they have to prove is loathsome and more importantly, totally non-Catholic and simply evil. It would behoove everyone to ignore such individuals and live the Catholic life we know and trust. All these self=proclaimed apologists and media theologians and expert spiritual scholastics are NOT Catholic, do NOT present the teachings of the Church and are determined to mislead one away from their salvation. My advice/// do NOT pay any attention to them.