Against Tim White

THE FOLLOWING IS THE RESULT OF A TIM WHITE SENDING ME A LONG EMAIL TITLED “THE JESUIT OATH EXPOSED.” Below is the beginning of the text…

“Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.”

Professor Arthur Noble

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[The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843), translated from the French original.

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Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below.

When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar.

On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colors, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS.

The meaning of which is:

It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers

Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels.

The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:

(The Superior speaks:)

My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.

You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means.

You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Popes sake, whose servants we are unto death.

You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for “without the shedding of blood no man can be saved“.

Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:

(Text of the Oath:)

I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christs Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed.

Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holinesss right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers.

I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise.

I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Churchs interest; to keep secret and private all her agents counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ.

That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centres of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me.

I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race.

That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus.

In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever.

That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope.

All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath.

In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.

(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)

(Superior speaks:)

You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one crosses his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first.

The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges; the other answers Impious. The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:

From whither do you come? Answer: The Holy faith.

Whom do you serve? Answer: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.

Who commands you? Answer: The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.

Who received you? Answer: A venerable man in white hair.

How? Answer: With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.

Did you take an oath? Answer: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, nor sex, nor condition; to be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation or murmuring.

Will you do that? Answer: I will.

How do you travel? Answer: In the bark of Peter the fisherman.

Whither do you travel? Answer: To the four quarters of the globe.

For what purpose? Answer: To obey the orders of my General and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfill the conditions of my oaths.

Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.

STEVEN SPERAY REPLIES:

Dear Radar Runner,

I don’t know what your name is since you don’t give it any of your emails.

Anyway, I will simply refute the first point since much of what you sent is garbage with a fifth grade level understanding.

The Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction doesn’t exist. It is one of many lies concocted by anti-Catholics to discredit Catholicism and in this case the Jesuit Order.

The Jesuit Order as a Catholic Organization doesn’t exist anymore. Todays Jesuits are Modernists who have usurped the Catholic name.

However, stating that the oath can be found in the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (which was torn out?) implying that this actually means something is funny. Are you serious?

You sent the statement, “Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below.

Rivera is a fraud. Just look it up at Wikipedia and read about him. The fact that there is an association with him and Jack Chick is all anyone needs.

I’ve exposed Jack Chick as an idiot myself. His little pamphlets are laughable. Only fools take the word of such idiots without doing authentic research.

What can you tell me about Charles Didier who authored Subterranean Rome?

What makes him credible?

After all, you quote him as a credible source.

I’ll leave at that and see how you will respond. Will it be simple and direct, with smoke screens and tons more of invalid info, or not at all?

You called me a Jesuit apologist now let’s see you defend yourself with these statements.

Steven

TIM WHITE RESPONDS:

HOW PREDICTABLE !…JESUIT APOLOGIST YOU ARE SPERAY – what a SWABBY…you are a COMPLETE FRAUD and a JOKE to TRY to DENY PROVEN and IRREFUTABLE FACTS…so therefore it IS A WASTE of MY TIME to engage in ANY dialogue with you – JESUIT ALTAR BOY…how LAUGHABLE YOU ARE Tim White,Viet Nam Vet(USAF) Concerned Citizen,Researcher,Investigator,Whistleblower

STEVEN REPLIES:

Tim White,

AS I thought.

You don’t back up anything you say but rather use insults because you know that you can’t defend yourself.

How laughable you are!

What gas did you inhale in Vietnam that ruined your thinking?

Steven

TIM WHITE RESPONDS:

LOOK AT WHO THE AD HOMINEM HYPOCRITE IS HERE – JESUIT ALTAR BOY SPERAY…it’s YOU who put out THE INSULTS FIRST and NOW you don’t LIKE to be called WHAT YOU ARE – A JESUIT COADJUTOR…what KIND of “activity” did YOU HAVE BEHIND THE ALTAR ? MY thinking is just FINE but it’s CLEAR that you are JESUIT TRAINED to be a DISINFORMATION AGENT who will NOT get away with it with ME or many others who SEE now what the VERY MUCH IN EXISTENCE JESUITS of the VERY REAL FOURTH VOW HAVE DONE…

Tim White

STEVEN SPERAY REPLIES:

Tim,

I asked you a simple question and you refused to answer it.

The only disinformation that has been given has come from you and you prove it when you can’t back any of it up.

So you won’t get away with me or anyone else who actually cares about the truth. Seriously, your Vietnam days must have given you some kind of paranoid schizophrenia or do you work for Jack Chick publications?????

If there was even a slight bit of truth to anything you say, I’d be all over it.

I already expose the Vatican as being Masonic but only after it was usurped by its agent Roncalli and his successors.

I actually use documented facts from credible sourses unlike your hearsay evidence.

The Jesuits have produced some terrible devils but that is not the fault of the Jesuits.

You have no real evidence that the oath ever existed.

Again, I ask you, “What can you tell me about Charles Didier who authored Subterranean Rome…what makes him credible?”

Steven

TIM WHITE RESPONDS:

MORE ad hominem SLANDER from you ALTAR BOY– you PROVE TO ME and to ALL the others on this list that the PROVEN and VERY REAL SECRET 4th VOW of THE JESUITS does not exist and we”ll go from there – but you CAN’T EVER DO THAT WITH THE TRUTH ….and ANY reference by you to MY days in Viet Nam (as a WEAPONS CONTROL/RADAR technician on F-4 Phantoms with a SECRET security clearance) is NOT for a UNinformed PUNK like YOU to comment on CAPICHE ?..your comments here are CLEARLY those of an IDIOT that you CLAIM Jack Chick is and NO – I don’t work for him..nice try but you are reaching for BALLOONS that are NON existant…you are HOPELESSLY skewed from ALL the facts and unless and UNTIL you get it through your skull on the PERVASIVE EVIL that MILITARY GENERAL IGNATIUS LOYOLA unleashed upon the world nearly 500 years ago – YOU will ALWAYS BE a JESUIT ALTAR BOY to me…remember that as a USAF Viet Nam veteran – I will ALWAYS be looking DOWN on YOU as a SWABBY who is nothing more than a HYPOCRITE JESUIT TRAINED DISINFORMATION AGENT who is NOT honest…

Tim White

STEVEN SPERAY REPLIES:

Tim White,

Again, you couldn’t answer the simple question which is the basis for your accusation against the Jesuits.

I don’t have to prove anything since you are the one making the allegations. You prove it!!!!

As for your insults, I wear them proudly as badges of honor since they have been given to me from a man who lies about the great saint Ignatious.

As for being accused of being Jesuit trained, I can assure you that is no insult but a compliment. So thank you!

Yes, I’m glad you look down on me.

You have truly made my Easter most blessed!

It wouln’t have been complete unless I exposed a devil from hell like you to the point of receiving insults and slander!

Steven

TIM WHITE RESPONDS:

HA HA HA  …hmmmmm – so…YOU exposed ME ! ! ? ? ?…in case YOU haven’t been PAYING ATTENTION – JESUIT TRAINED ALTAR BOY…it’s YOU who HAS BEEN EXPOSED for being THE MIND CONTROLLED PHONEY that you ARE – Gianni Hayes sure CAN SEE this for herself now as well as the others in this thread….wait till I get my EXPOSE’ done on Attorney John DeCamp’s visit with Cardinal RAT ZINGER in Rome back in the mid 1990’s regarding the PEDOPHILIA at JESUIT run BOYSTOWN which is central to THE FRANKLIN COVERUP…I’m very close to having a SHIT STORM ready for the PEDO POPE to deal with…as well as that A-HOLE Bill Donohue of the CATHOLIC LEAGUE….in case you’d like to know WHO is in this thread…Jim Rothstein – who IS Catholic…EXPOSED Cardinal Spellman as A VICIOUS PEDOPHILE years ago when he was still with the NYPD….you just will NOT believe the SHIT STORM that’s coming your way too…on THE_UNHIVED_MIND and elsewhere….PROOF of the NON-existence of THE FOURTH VOW of THE JESUITS is ALL yours to provide – WE ARE WAITING…so you better get busy in a FUTILE excercise ALTAR BOY…..and THANX again for EXPOSING YOURSELF…

Tim White

STEVEN SPERAY REPLIES:

Well Tim White,

For your 4th response you never answered the foundation question for your hearsay evidence.

When I asked you to defend yourself in my first email, I suggested that you would use smoke screens.

Each of your last 4 emails has been nothing but smoke screens of name calling and smack talk.

So, not only did I expose you as the real fraud who can’t answer simple questions that challenge your stories, but you proved

me right that you would not actually defend your bogus allegations but rather give your ha ha’s and a lot of nothing.

We all know already that Ratzinger is rotten. Spellman was evil also. So what? Nothing to do with Jesuits!

You keep asking me to prove the oath doesn’t exist. Would you like me to prove that extraterrestrials don’t run the country, too?

You’re a wacko!

So Gianni Hayes will see the real truth since all your future emails won’t be any different. More name calling, smack talk, LOL’s, with a lot of bogus info, but it in the end you won’t answer the question from which your false allegations hinges.

I’ll let you have the last email, but we all know what it will say.

Good riddance!

Steven

TIM WHITE RESPONDS:

YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT SPERAY…here’s a FACT for you JERK…Gianni has known me for the past 4 years or so and she KNOWS that I am NO fool and she has learned A LOT from I have emailed her in the past but NOW she can see that YOU ARE THE FOOL…YOU – BOYSCOUT – are the FIRST one to be THE NAME CALLER in your 1st reply – HYPOCRITE PHONEY….can’t you REMEMBER PHONEY ?

STEVEN SPERAY:

OF COURSE, I KEPT MY WORD AND DIDN’T REPLY BACK, BUT TAKE ANOTHER LOOK…

I DIDN’T CALL HIM ANY NAMES AT ALL.

SURE, I INSULTED HIM A LITTLE IN EACH OF THEM, BUT THAT’S JUST ME. IT’S HARD NOT TO WHEN YOU KNOW THAT YOU’RE DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING AGAINST THE TRUTH!