The solution some Eastern Orthodox members give to the position of Catholic sedevacantism is to join them. The problem, however, is two-fold. First, which Eastern Orthodox religion should we join? There is no Eastern Orthodox Church. It’s the Russian Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Church, Coptic Orthodox Church, Romanian Orthodox Church, etc.
Who has the final say as to which one is the most true Eastern Orthodox church? I have to say “most” true because none of them are 100% true. See Eastern Orthodox is Not the Way
It comes down to each individual’s opinion as to who is true orthodox and what is true orthodox doctrine. This is not so in the Catholic Church, which has laid down very clearly who is a member of the Church and what is Catholic dogma.
The second problem with the Eastern Orthodox religions is that it embodies the very thing we Catholics despise. Joining an Eastern Orthodox religion is to join an ecumenical religion of the world.
Most, if not all, Eastern Orthodox churches belong to the satanic World Council of Churches. See https://www.oikoumene.org/en/member-churches and read the names of the Orthodox churches which are united to this satanic fellowship.
It gets worse. Among the Eastern Orthodox leaders who took part in one of the most evil gatherings ever, the Assisi Events of 1986, 2002, and 2011, were Bartholomeos I, the Orthodox ecumenical patriarch of Constantinople; Ignace IV Hazim, Greek Orthodox patriarch of Antioch and of all the Orient; several metropolitans and dignitaries of the patriarchates of Moscow, Serbia, Romania and Bulgaria, and of Orthodox churches in Cyprus, Poland and Albania.
I suggest the reading of my THE DIABOLICAL ASSISI EVENTS and understand why there’s no excuse for such abominable gatherings.
Lastly, the Eastern Orthodox has good relations with the Novus Ordo religion of antipope Francis. If the Eastern Orthodox had an ounce of holiness in it, you would not see the antipopes of Vatican II attempting to reconcile with them in the manner in which they go about it.
The following video does not speak well for the Eastern Orthodox because the Vatican II popes would stay far away from them if the Eastern Orthodox were holy and true.
The video shows Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I kissing Pope Francis’ head during an ecumenical prayer at the Patriarchal Church of St. George in Istanbul, Saturday, Nov. 29, 2014. The two apostates will participate in an ecumenical liturgy and sign a joint declaration in the ongoing attempt to reunite the churches.
It just so happened that antipope Francis had prayed with Muslims facing Mecca in the Blue Mosque earlier that same day. [1] Bartholomew undoubtedly approved.
If the best comeback an Eastern Orthodox apologist has to defend such nonsense from their religion is to recognize and resist, we despise that heresy as well.
Eastern Orthodox is not the way. It practices the very thing we hate about the Novus Ordo religion of antipope Francis. Why would we want to join them?
As I’ve said before, the Roman Catholic Faith is the faith found in all generations since Christ and if this faith is not it… then nothing else is.
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Is R&R a heresy?
Absolutely!
I ultimately agree with your conclusion, but I have a single idea that I think you may want to edit in. I think an Eastern Orthodox onlooker might believe you’re not accurately representing their Church because of the statement that there is no single Eastern Orthodox Church.
However, there’s a slight nuance here. The Oriental Orthodox are actually completely separate from the Eastern Orthodox- they’re their own individual Church. Meanwhile, the Russian, Greek, and Romanian Churches, among others, are national Churches that are part of the larger Eastern Orthodox Church, which comprises all of them.
Other than that, good article. Sorry if my comment seems picky, but I think it’s best to “steel-man” the other position in any situation. You do great work for the Lord.
Thank you! I don’t disagree with you. However, it would depend on which Eastern Orthodox person you ask. They are their own final authority and they don’t all agree among themselves.
I even read on Wikipedia that contrary to their own tradition of widower priests remaining celibate, in some “jurisdictions” the clowns ‘defrock’ the widowed priest and “make him a layman” (as if the sacerdotal character could be effaced). Then he remarries “as a layman” and sometimes is even reordained. Also they consider Anglican ‘orders’ valid and allowed their own parishioners to go to Anglican halls when they were just starting out in the diaspora and didn’t have churches of their own. Laughable.
Wow, your position on Eastern Orthodoxy is highly malformed. You cited myriad JURISDICTIONS of the Orthodox Church, not competing denominations.
Can you be more specific?