Hello from Dayton, Goodbye from Versailles

More Smoke and Mirrors from Rev. Shannon

Rev. Shannon ignored the real issues at stake with his reply on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 09:01 AM.

Well, dear Steven, you have personally determined that you are part of the remnant who have the real Faith. Without being led, you have gone off the reservation. This decision is on your shoulders….and you’re not impeccable, inerrant, nor infallible. A person in your condition is never going to be open to my influence until there is a change in you. But since our will is a moved mover, the good Lord can move that will to embrace Him and His Mystical Body, His Holy Bride, a Wife that He will never divorce. As a final note, your dismissal of “scientific” truths and historical truths by extension as not being a part of doctrine is quite disturbing and shows that the revolution is very much in you. Every Father of the Church believed in Fiat Creation and so did Vatican I…every Father of the Church (with the exception of St. Augustine who had a bad translation of the Bible which led him to believe that God created all things in kind and species at once on the first day) believed in six days of creation. To deny such a thing is to deny that the Sabbath rest is part of the very beginning of creation. Creation is a doctrine…a teaching that goes far beyond ex nihilo. The Bible clearly states that the earth was present before our dearest Lord called out Fiat Lux. Evolution has been condemned by the Church, not only at the Council of Colongne right after Darwin’s Origin of Species was published, but also condemned at Vatican I. Historical truths, too, touch on doctrine all the time, especially in regards to our Lord’s human genealogy. Yes, you have that liberal, Masonic, enlightenment mentality that hates all authority. Like Galileo, you place the Holy Bible as the last to be consulted on scientific and historic questions. But, if you want to leave Moses and head back to Egypt, that’s up to you. I just pray that you will see that there is a mystery here that we cannot easily solve, and that you will return.
In Jesus and Mary,
Fr. SC

 MY REPLY 1/10/12:

Dear Rev. Shannon,

I never left the Catholic Church, the Mystical Body of Christ. I believe in all the laws and teachings of the Church. You apparently don’t believe them or else you would have given a real answer to my questions about crucial matters, but you didn’t so.

Now to clear the smoke, I believe in a young earth and instant creation on each of the days given in Holy Writ. I already told you that I don’t believe in the Big Bang. I even said that it has been debunked by science. However, I (as with the Catholic Church) don’t condemn Big Bang theorists for their symbolic interpretation of six days of creation. You apparently think you know more than the Church. I also believe that the earth doesn’t move. I should say fixed earth in space, because the earth may rotate slowly.

I totally reject macro-evolution! However, micro-evolution is a fact. We’ve seen it happen within our own lives. But of course, you don’t know what the definition of micro-evolution is.

Where you got the idea that I reject the historic nature of Scripture is beyond me.

You condemn me for what you think is a rejection of traditionally held scientific views, but have no problem rejecting what you think are the teachings of the Supreme Ordinary Magisterium (Vatican 2). You have no problem ignoring and rejecting the Divine and Church laws, or the teaching of the church that they are spotless, perfect, and not crippled. You ignore or reject the papal teachings on what makes sacraments valid. I could go on and on, but what difference does it make? You’ll follow whoever claims to be pope and you’ll pick and choose from what they give you. On this point, you’re no different from the radical liberals who call themselves Catholic.          

Your last 4 sentences are lies and you should be ashamed of yourself for stating them! I gave you the laws and teachings of the Church, and you gave me absolutely nothing. I asked you questions, and just like Rickert, you answered none of them. I dealt with everything you gave me and in return you replied with smoke and mirrors. As a matter of fact, you were dishonest with me from the beginning. You told Matt and I that “subsists” was wrong, and Vatican 2 was wrong using it. You made it clear to us at that time that Tromp’s understanding of the word was faulty. We asked if you had spoken to Rickert and adopted his view, and you didn’t answer.

You attempted to degrade sedevacantism with an argument that Our Lady never warned of an empty see for a long time, but I provided an answer that, in fact, an approved apparition (along with a possible two others) said the Church will go through a dark night without a prelate and father to watch over it. I guess you only accept the approved apparitions that don’t warn of sedevacantism, which means any warning of such a thing by Heaven would only be rejected anyway.

It’s no mystery that Rome has lost the Faith. It’s Rome that needs to return, not me. You were shown that it is the universal testimony of the early Church Fathers that Rome shall apostatize from the Faith, and the Church will be scattered and seem to have been swept from the face of the earth. Where do you think they got that idea?

I actually believe what the early Church Fathers taught, but you don’t. Your position won’t allow you. Who’s the real one that’s liberal, Masonic, with an enlightenment mentality, hating all authority? IT’S YOU!

Sincerely,

Steven

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